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sunday eastern time for america's news headquarters. until then, keep it here on the fox news channel, the most powerful name in news. "the o'reilly factor" is next. have a great weekend. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- ú0ú0 ú0ú0 sú0miú0t0 ú0ú0biú0ll: "the o'reilly factos ú0ú00ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú00 ú0ú0toú0niú0ghú0t:ú0 sean: and tonight in yourú0ú0ú00 ú0ú0erú0icú0aú0 bú0adú0 nú0ewú00 ú0ú0ú0ú0amú0aú0. ú0ú0glú0enú0ú0 gú0leú0nú0ú0ú0ú00 ú0ú0anú0dú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0 lú0olú0li0 gretú0a:ú0 nú0ew rules bill bil0 ú0ú0eú0 pú0residentú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú00 nú0 bigú0l networks are i ú0ú0leú0 adú0 ratings trouble. bernie goldberg will analyze. >> i want an answer right now. >> no, no, no. >> the controversy is not going away. americans are divided on health care and the aarp is apparently siding with the president.
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we'll talk with the leader of that group. >> i called the police and they said it was legal, so i stopped wearing clothes. >> and more madness in oregon. this woman says she'll go naked in public, and the cops are ok with it. the culture warriors are investigating. >> adam and eve were naked and everything was fine until they ate bad food, and then they got really self-conscious. >> caution -- you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] ute ú0ú0w.ncicap.org--ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0 ú0ú0biú0llú0: ú0hiú0,ú0 iú0'mú0. ú0ll: ú0 hi, i'm bill o'reilly. the subject of tonight's "talking points," last week was a huge victory for fax news. we beat cnn by 380%, msnbc, 247%, headline news, 299%.
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total "the factor" audience, 11.54 -- 5.4 million folks, more than "cbs evening news" last months. last thursday, beck, smith and greta beat all four of their competitors combined. so why is this happening? well, a major reason is the health care debate. the other network broadcasts downplay the dissent and promote the takeover, fox news highlights the debate. when we cover the town hall meetings, we don't describe the protesters as loons, we don't denigrate people who disagree with president obama. that's the big difference between fox news and all the others. now, some liberals will say we intentionally glorify the protesters. that doesn't happen here. we said there's no doubt some of the dissent is organized by people who dislike president obama. that's a fact. and we reported it. "the factor" also gives voice to both sides, something you will never get on nbc news.
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so fair-minded americans know our reporting is honest, while much of the other tv news media is simply in the tank for the president. now, you think liberal americans would flock to hear their side propped up. for libs, conservatives and independents alike, there's no choice. they have to watch us if they want to know what's going on, and they are in record numbers. "talking points" is not gloating, just reporting. but the massive viewership to fox news is a watershed moment in media history. there is no question anymore that fox news is now the most powerful voice in the news media, despite unrelenting attacks from most other press organizations. the american people are not stupid. they know the health care deal is extremely important. they know the country is running up debt that could destroy the u.s. dollar. they know the president has not been able to explain why the health care plan is good for the country. most of the other media ignore those things. we do not. fox news is designed to be provocative, truthful and look out for the regular folks.
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that's why our ratings are so dominant, and that's the memo. for the top story tonight, reaction to the memo, and to dan rather saying president obama needs to clean up the media. wow, i can't wait until the president comes in here and starts with a broom. joining us from north carolina, fox news analyst, bernie goldberg. have you been surprised on the ratings in the summer, which is historically a low ratings time for fox news? >> no, not really. let me explain very briefly why the ratings went through the roof last thursday. i was on the show in the lead segment. >> that's true. >> but enough about me, enough about me. listen, roger ails needs to send sam pain and flowers to the presidents of the three network news divisions along with a note that says, "thank you for sending over all those viewers." because if they were doing their job, there wouldn't be the mass defections. conservatives came over to fox a long time ago. but you raise an interesting points here -- why are the
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ratings -- after you've got all the conservatives, why do they keep going up? you're getting moderates and liberals, i think, and it's because health care is one of those few issues that directly, directly affects everybody. don't underestimate the power of word of mouth. there have been books written about the power of word of mouth. somebody hears something on fox, on this show or some other show. they tell a friend and they say -- the friend says, quoff i didn't know that," because the friend's watching the cbs evening news and they come over to fax. i think that's what's happening. >> but the intensity of the health care debate really lit a fuse in this country. because for the first time in memory the minutemen protest was small. this is huge. so here we have pictures of regular folks going out right on the heels of the tea parties, basically saying, look, i don't understand the plan, i don't believe the federal government with implement the plan, i'm angry that it's being rammed down my
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throat. and fox news is reporting this accurately, where on the other networks they're mocking these people, particularly nbc, which is the worst. they mock they will. and americans, even if you favor obamacare don't want these people mocked. >> no, that's right. people want to see their values, if not reflected in the media, at least respected in the media. and what you just described is a disrespect of those viewers. so if they -- look, because this issue affects them personally, they see the town hall meetings, and if those people are being called names, i'm telling you, bill, people are sitting at home, not your usual viewers. they're sitting at home saying, wait a second, wait a second. i don't want a panel deciding if i should have an operation because i'm 85 years old or merely get a pill.
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and if they don't hear that on abc or nbc or cbs and they think they can get it on fox, because fox is giving that side of the story more weight, they're going to come over. bill: well, there's no doubt it's happening. and it isn't a split anymore, it's a rout, it's a rout. and all of the other big mouths on the other networks are going down in flames and it's really interesting to watch. >> it's fun to watch. bill: now, dan rather is very upset by this, and he wants president obama to clean up the media. roll the tape. >> a truly free and independent press, again, fiercely independent when necessary, is part of the red bleeding heart of democracy. this is why i say to you it's bigger than journalists, bigger than journalism. it's a societal problem of what's happening with our news.
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i personally encourage the president to establish this white house commission on public media. bill: number one, i don't understand his beef with the news, because it's 80% liberal, and dan is a liberal. and number two, i don't know what he wants obama to do. do you? >> yeah, i think i do. what he's saying is that the news business is in serious trouble and nobody pays attention when he or anybody else tells them that, so he wants a presidential commission to look into, a, the problems of the news and the solutions for the news. this is a terrible -- a terrible idea. the most important role for journalism is to keep an eye on government. i don't want journalists and the white house getting too cozy. and what rather is -- >> it's too late, bernie, it's too late. >> yeah, i know. bill: you wrote a book bit, man. it's too late. they already are cozy.
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>> i know. what rather is saying -- what happens if this panel, by the way, decides to come up with a solution to this problem as a bailout for newspapers, like the g.m. bailout? bill: right. >> rather says in his speech -- i read the whole thing. rather says, "i'm not calling for a bailout." that's different from saying i'm against the bailout. so what are we going to do then? disregard the results of the poll? let me make a personal note here about mr. sangty mon just, dan rather. dan, you know why the media is in trouble? because you put phony documents or at least unverifiable documents on the air 55 days before a presidential election. that erodes trust in media. when i wrote an op-ed in the "wall street journal" about liberal bias in the news, what did mr. purity, dan rather do? did he want to have a
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discussion about it? no. he tried unsuccessfully, but he tried to get me fired. so this business about, oh, i'm so concerned about the news and we need to find out what's wrong with the news, you know what? we ought to have a presidential panel on hypocritical anchormen, and dan rather can be the chairman of that. bill: bernie goldberg, everybody. does the aarp want government to run health care? we'll find out. and this woman says she's going to run around naked all day long and the oregon cops have no problem with it. ú0ú0 ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú00
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>> aarp is not endorsing the legislation. i'm done. boil well, that did not go well. with us now, david certificatener from the aarp legislative policy. it may not be fair, but it's perceived that you guys have allied with the democratic party, barack obama, on the health care issue. >> we've been strongly in favor of health care reform, running up the last two years right up to the election. we have not endorsed any specific piece of legislation right now, but we are than tent on trying to fix the healthcare system and the pieces that concern our members. bill: so am i. i believe the system needs to be fixed. but writes a memo. she writes a memo that they are going to partner up. i don't know if you want to be on the same side as nancy pelosi and say she represents
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american seniors. she's a pretty extreme politician. >> we're not partnering with any of the members. bill: why would miss pelosi say that? certainly that's a big deal, if nancy pelosi is going to put that in writing, that the aarp is going to partner up with her democratic party. that's a big deal, is it not? >> well, we're not partnering with her. bill: did you make that clear to her? >> i think we've been working with members on both sides of the aisle. bill: when she wrote the memo, how did you responds? did you call her and say don't do that? >> i don't believe that memo ever came out. bill: yes, it did. last week human events reported on a mem fro from nancy pelosi, where she described the democrats' plan to partner with aarp. >> as i understand it, it was a draft memo. when the final memo came out, aarp was not included in that. bill: did you call her and tell her not to? >> we are with both sides. think we should leave it there. people at aarp give to both
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sides of the aisle. bill: but if barry rand is going to give them $9,000 and pelosi is going to make that memo, you can see why the people in dallas are a little skeptical of the aarp. >> well, quite frankly, bill, our policy decisions are set by our board of directors and they're made up of both democrats and republicans. we've been very careful over the years to be centrist. we've been atalked from the left and right over the years. we represent our membership and not any of the parties. bill: there are two big issues for the aarp, an that's rationing of care. you understand that in canada, the government runs the healthcare system, and medical care is rationed. >> we would reject that kind of care here in the u.s. bill: you wouldn't have any choice if the government takes over the system and there simply is not enough medical personnel to handle the elderly. >> we would not support a system where there was a government takeover. boil you want to keep the medical healthcare system in private hands? >> we think there should be choices of public and private options for people. we have no problem today with people making sure that -- --
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bill: so you want commission between public and private? >> i think that makes a lot of sense. bill: but if the competition is skewed, the private insurance companies are going to bail. you know that. >> i think that's part of the debate right now in washington over how to set up the system so there actually is competition. right now in the medicare program, people have a choice between the traditional plan or some of the private companies. we support that. we think competition is a good idea. bill: it can be worked out, but not in the present form. i don't think anybody understands what this bill is going to do. have you read the whole bill? >> i have read the bill. in fact, we have a whole team of people reading the bill. it is complicateded, and that's why we've been doing these town halls. bill: would you vote for this, if you were a congresswoman, would you vote on this and say i want this bill? as confused and ayotic as it is, would you say yes? >> that's an unfair question. bill: why, you read it? >> well, we have four different bills now and i'm on four
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different committees. bill: the one you read, the 1,000-pager. >> there is no final bill. there are a number of pieces. there's a lot of pieces in these bills we like and some we are not particularly fond of. bill: now, i'm worried about the overall efficiency of government. as you know, the fraud in medicare and medicaid is colossal. why would you want the federal government to come in and run a national health care when california's bankrupt? they say massachusetts is doing well. we look at the numbers. it isn't. why would you want it? >> well, let's talk about a government-run plan. that's what medicare is, as you know. and by and large, our membership likes medicare. there is not perfect programs. there are problems with it. we're trying to improve drug coverage in it. we think there's more fraud and waste than there should be, and some of the bills pending now would help weed out some fraud and abuse. bill: do you have confidence the government can do that? >> the government needs to do a better job than they're doing today. there's a lot of wasted money that everyone knows needs to
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come out of the system. bill: we appreciate you coming in and explaining. >> i really appreciate you giving me the opportunity. bill: we want to be fair to everybody. we want you to vote in our poll -- will a new health care bill be passed this year? yes or no? bill o'reilly.com. next on the rundown, did you see my article in "parade" magazine yesterday about what president obama can teach the kids? some have viciously attacked me over the peeks. nancy grace will be here. the queen of crime will tell us why her presentation is worthy. coming up. @ @
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bill: "personal story" segment. i hope you saw my piece in "parade" magazine entitled "what president obama can teach america's kids." all children should read this story. it's not political, but it contains very important messages for kids, however -- and i knew it would happen -- i've been attacked on both the left and the right for writing the story. for example, a commentator on the far left daily coast wrote, "o'reilly's putting on his really good face for all america to see, just to pull the rug from under obama. i smell a foul rat in this." and there was this on my own website. "i'm very disappointed that bill would do this piece in
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"parade." he's destroying the country with his socialistic, marxist goals." joining us now is a radio talk show host, and from washington fox news analyst, mary katherine. once again, i misunderstood, mary katherine, on both sides. what say you? >> well, i don't have a particular problem with your piece. i think for me, actually, maybe the only thing i like about this administration is that barack obama's example and having him talk about fatherhood from the white house and being able to do that in a bill cosby sort of style, without being pilloried by certain folks for doing it is effective. it's the cheapest and most effective thing he's done in his presidency so far. as far as being attacked, i'm going to put this out there. maybe the folks on the left and right who are partisans and don't know you like i and other contributors do as the teddy bear that you are, see this fair column and think to
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themselves, what is bill o'reilly up to? i would tell those folks that i think bill, unlike folks at certain elements of nbc, who can go for eight years and not say a nice thing about the president, i don't think you're that guy. bill: well, i also think that there is a hatred for president obama as it was, leslie, for president bush. and once you get into the hate zone, then all thinking is clouded, correct? >> yes. it's not like your no-spin zone. what we're looking at, bill, is you pointing out, like you had said, something that isn't political. you look at a lot of americans who are fed up with people blaming their parents. you look at kids who aren't respectful to their parents or to adults. you're looking at a guy with the name barack hussein obama, who is biracial, a black man, running for president and he's done it. i think it's admirable that you, even though we disagree idealogically, saying i may
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disagree with him politically, but i have to give him props, and i commend him for this, and i wholeheartedly agree with you. i'm going to get a lot of heck for this later. bill: why would you get heck for that? see, what drives people? what drives people who can take a nice article that everybody should clip out and hand to children -- particularly children having trouble -- and say, look, these are lessons that you need to succeed. what drives, leslie, somebody to try to destroy that concept? you say you're going to be criticized by your pals, whoever. why would they both they are to do that? it's got to be hate fred. it's got to be hatred. >> i agree with you. you know, bill, i'm very fortunate to be on your show enough and people will say to me why do you do that show. you're a liberal, you're a democrat, you're a "traitor." and i say -- honestly, this is not kissing your bullet. i like bill, i respect bim. we don't agree, but we don't disagree 100% of the time either. and that's where most americans
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are. we have areas where we overlap, and i think you are pointing out an area where most americans do overlap. anybody looks at this guy and respects him. >> i think you're right. most americans reading this article would say it's a positive article. everything in it is absolutely true. not one word that isn't true and it will help kids. mary katherine, what's the difference between the bush haters, and we put up with them for eight years, and the obama haters? what's the difference? >> well, i think there's a difference of degree at this point. we'll see how things go. >> but i would say also that i look forward to seeing folks on the left applaud people like bobby jindsal and a representative in louisiana for their immigrant and personal stories as they move forward and they perhaps become more important figures. the second thing is i would say some of the arguments with your piece may not be entirely hatred, but folks saying, listen, obama has great rhetoric on this issue, and that is actually helpful in this case.
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but on policy, he actually ends up feeding the grievance politics that lead to people not being raised in the way that he was and not succeeding, things like going immediately -- bill: that doesn't have any effect on children and children's psyche. that may be true, that may be true, ok? >> one thing on policy, he can have an impact on kids. bill: but it wasn't a policy-based article. it wasn't about barack obama. it was about the kids. >> they take that ball and run with it. bill: because they want to. they don't want to ever say -- look -- >> it's a fair argument to say that he maybe undercuts his rhetoric in some of his policy choices, without being hateful. bill: it says the bush-haters would never say anything about the president, even though he saved millions of lives in africa and prevented us from another al qaeda attack. >> aapplaud the folks who did that with bush and i will applaud folks who do it with obama. you've got to be fair. >> i'll tell you, with george w. bush, i actually have said good things and i got axed for
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that, too. i agree with him on illegal immigration. but it comes down to it. you say waste the difference. the difference is people hating obama are doing so either because they're standing on a different side, they're on the right, the bush-haters were on the left. but with obama there is also a racial element that wasn't there with former president george w. bush, how horrific it is, i think it's true. bill: ladies, thanks very much. as "the factor" moves along, vicious comment on abc about president obama being harmed. you won't believe what this nut said. and the culture warriors on an oregon woman who says she'll run around naked and the police are fine with it. we hope you stay tuned for those reports.
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[whispers] no... announce: ask questions. for the 10 questions everyone should know, go to ahrq.gov. ú0ú0 ú0ú0>>ú0 cú0rime and punishmenth ú0ú0oo familiar reporting onú0ú0 ú0ú0ú0rrú0enú0doú0usú0ú0ú0ú0 ac. ú0ú0perhaps tú0heú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0e ú0ú0e reporter in the country i0 naú0ncú0yú0 gú0raú0ceú0 oú0nú0 0 niú0gú0htú0lyú0 eú0xpú0osesú0ú00 [captioning made possible by ú0 fox news channel] ú0 bill: here now, miss grace, the0 author oú0f aú0ú0ú0 brand-new b "the eleventh victim." first, we'll talk about the program, then i'll get to the book. you cover the casey-caylee anthony case. this is the baby who was murdered and the mother has been charged. matricide is the worst. 206 times you mention it. why?
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>> yes. at the beginning of the case it was an unsolved missing child case. i immediately observed problems in the mom story, and i didn't believe her story. it didn't make sense to me. and after law school and graduate school at n.y.u., it all boils down to one thing -- common sense. and at the beginning i thought, well, maybe there's a chance to find the child and we stayed on the story. and the more we stayed on it, the more inconsistencies my staff and myself and others discovered, until it was brought to light. and we stayed on it and will stay on it. >> now it's been brought to a court of law. do you feel that you and your program helped ge the mother indicted? >> oh, absolutely not. bill: so the authorities were going to get to the bottom of this anyway, without nancy grace. >> i pray. however, in many cases, our show has led to tips and unsolved homicides. bill: it's like "america's most wanted." >> yes. i only wish we could be that effective. so i hope in some way it's
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impacted. but you know what, mr. o'reilly, many times i've been asked, don't you think you can taint a jury? no way. i only have two syllables on that, o.j. i was one of the idiots that predicted he would be convicted in the double murder. didn't happen. so juries go into that jury room and they do what they think is right. they don't care what i'm saying. bill: i don't know, though, whether there's a line between -- we covered the casey anthony, caylee anthony story, but not nearly what you did. we gave the highlights of the story and we also said we thought the mother did it and all of that. pu when you get into exploiting the important error of the crime -- >> well, mr. o'reilly, as long as there are developments in the story, then i will continue to -- bill: but 206 times? what if you con drive them? >> i don't think they're contrived. and if you review the record of what has happened in that case, television shows -- or at least our show -- does not create the
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shows. top mom did that all on her own. bill: so you think we went overboard on it. >> goodness, no. excuse me. you know what? if cases that we cover are called tabloid, i beg to differ. as a crime victim myself and having prosecuted in inner city atlanta nothing but felonies for a decade, i do not believe that unsolved homicides, missing children, drunk drivers that kill, wipe out families in one afternoon is tabloid. i don't believe that. bill: look, i don't have any beef with it, it's just a matter of how much you do. >> bill, i believe, i believe it makes a difference. bill: you want to sell your book, right? you referenced that you were a victim of crime, because when you were 19 your fiance was murdered. shot to death. >> yes. bill: and that is the linchpin of your novel. >> yes. there are four intersecting stories that go through the novel. one is about a female environmentalist on st. simon's island, georgia, one is about a
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corrupt judge, who is an amalgamation of many judges, trial and appellate, that i knew, another one is a heroine, haley dean. >> that's you. >> she's a much better person than i could hope to be, and she is actually framed for murder. and i'll leave it at that. bill: it's a thriller. you don't want to give it away. when you are out in public, people like you, right, are considered a champion. >> some people hate me, but usually they like me. bill: are there people that hate you? >> yes, sure. bill: for what? >> i don't know. bill: you're an advocate for crime victims, like walsh is. but you're not political. >> someone might be at home hiding under the bed right now. bill: if you buy the book, do you get this? >> no, that's special for you. bill: nancy grace, cut-out doll. we wish you the best. the book is "the eleventh victim." >> i'm grateful to be here, thank you. bill: is the state of oregon going nuts? it's denying cancer treatments
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bill: thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly. the state of oregon is a secular, progressive stronghold. last week we documented the universities of oregon. liberal professors outnumber conservatives by 14-1, 14-1. now we have a woman who goes by
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the name of rae from oregon city who says she wants to run around naked in public and also says the cops are fine with it. >> i called the police an they said it was legal, so i just stopped wearing clothes at home and i felt so much better. adam and eve were naked and everything was fine until they ate bad food, and then they got really self-conscious. i stopped eating bad food a year ago. i've been walking out of there when i want to get something from my car. i spends time in the front yard anyway, you know? i'm just doing whatever feels right. i just am trying to heal. bill: what is now the culture warriors, margaret hoover and gretchen carlson. the discussion here is not this poor woman who wants to heal. and you know, with the mosquito season being here, you're going to do a lot of healing. [laughter] the discussion is children. so say you're on this person's block and all of a sudden she's going out to the car to wash it au natural.
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>> well, in oregon there's no law prohibiting it. growing up in minnesota on a city bus when i was 6 or 7 years old, i saw a man expose himself and i never forgot it. it affected me for life. can you imagine if you're a child who lives on this block, where this woman is coming out in her front yard every day? you don't know the damage that this is possibly imposing on them. bill: what do you do with your kids? what do you do? >> what is the option, that you move out of the community because this loon is also in your neighborhood? this is once again a situation where they defer to the one person's claim instead of the majority of society that would disagree with this. bill: what do you say? >> what you have in western states is this libertarian impulse. it's manifested itself in a huge degree of tolerance. what's happened with this tolerance is it's absolute the absolute fringe of modern liberalism to flourish, like this lady. what has to happen is that my right to swing my arms stops at your nose. the folks in that neighborhood
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need to put their foot down and say, no, we need to go to our city council, our district representative, whatever it is, to say -- because it is within your power as a citizen -- bill: there's no state law and you'd have to see what the locals could do. but, look, i think you're right. i think the folks have to go to the oregon city city council and say you've got to make an ordinance of some kind to prevent her from doing it and enforce it. but we have a mayor in oregon who's a transgendered guy. >> exactly. bill: he's walking around in high heels and they elect him mayor. there he is. now, he got censored for doing inappropriate things in front of kids. then we have in san francisco protesters going into the catholic church during mass and interrupting the mass in a crazy situation. again, the children in the area see this stuff, hufere. now, you don't have any kids.
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what do you do? do you discuss it with your kids? do you get angry? >> probably both. you have to do something to change the laws. it is this tolerance that has led to this environment where the social pros yiffs that you talk about have actual -- progressives that you talk about have actually taken control. >> why is it the responsibility of the majority of the people on do these? we elect people to do these sorts of things for us. >> our founding fathers said if you don't like the laws, it is your power, yr civic duty to change them. bill: obviously in oregon city there's nobody there leading the charge. >> that's not true. the city council censored the mayor for dressing inappropriately. the mayor was a transendser mayor. bill: isn't that a different town? >> it's still in oregon. bill: i've got to get this. this is also in oregon. here we have an unbelievable situation. this happened in 2008. 64-year-old barbara wagner, ok, had lung cancer, a smoker. there was a drug that could have helped her.
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oregon has the universal health care deal. the state said we will not pay for the drug, ms. wagner, but we will pay to kill you, ute nashia. that's what the letter -- euthanasia. now she's dead. this woman died. what do you think about that, hoover, with the health care debate raging? >> it doesn't bode well for obama and the democrats' plan for a public option. this is yet another story of how state-run health care -- bill: but well pay to kill you. >> why? because it's cheaper. >> it is another story of exactly why state-run health care lacks humanity. it's brutal. >> she died after the fact. >> by who? by big, bad, pharma. that is the untold story. >> bottom line with nationalized health care is the bottom line, and that is what it costs. the drug to kill her in
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assisted suicide was $50. the drug to possibly keep her alive was $4,000. i say to you that this is what national health care will be. it will all be about the bottom line. and to think that a human life is worth only $50 is a crime. bill: 64 years old. now, that's pretty -- that's in the zone of you try to save them. if she's 84, outta here, outta here! >> oh, come on, do you think you have to make that decision for someone when they're 84? bill: do i think so? no. but i'm telling you what the nationalized health care will will do. >> big bad pharma had more humanity and more passion than the state-run healthcare system in oregon. boil culture warriors, everybody. reality check leads with a vicious comment made about president obama and the possibility of the president being harmed. you're not going to believe what this guy said on nbc news. we'll be right back with it. as "the factor" continues all across the u.s.a. and all around the world. ú0ú0 ú0ú0ú0ú0ú00
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bill: "back of the book" segment at any time. reality check, where the truth is spotlighted and deceivers shamed. check one. things are getting even more extreme on nbc's air. the latest, a far left loon who said this -- >> there is a whole public there who went out and stocked up a ammunition and guns, thinking obama would take away their weapons. one such person shot down three policemen in pittsburgh. i'd like to know exactly what fox news and glenn beck will say the morning after someone takes a shot at our president or kills a senator or
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congressman. bill: now, that's stunning, because nbc news said the most vile things about president bush and his administration. if president bush had been harmed, would nbc cop to being responsible? when you hear that kind of rhetoric, the only thick you can do is turn off the tv set or turn the channel. as mentioned, msnbc has collapsed in the ratings, and their left wing lune see is the reason why. today the white house announced white house.gov/reality check. check is flattered and disturbed by that. website is designed to fight rumors about health care, which is ok, if the rebutals are true. check will be watching closely. we don't want our name impinged. sarah palin writing on face book book, the america i know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with down's syndrome will have to stand in front of obama's death panel,
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so his bureaucrats can decide who gets care." she's fearful that health care will be rationed. upon hearing sarah palin's comments, howard dean said this -- >> about euthanasia, they're just totally erroneous. she just made that up. just like the bridge to nowhere she supposedly didn't support. there's nothing like euthanasia in the bill. i've practiced medicine for a long time and of course you have to have end of life discussions. the patients want that. there's nothing -- euthanasia is not in this bill. bill: as far as we can tell, sarah palin never mentioned euthanasia. dean made it up to demean palin. dean does that all the time and it's wrong. check four. whenever president obama's policies get in trouble, you can counts on the race card being dealt. this woman, "atlanta journal-constitution" columnist. cynthia tucker was downgraded from editorial director and said this about those opposing
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government-run health care. >> i think 45% to 65% of the people who are pure at these groups are people who will never be comfortable with the idea of a black president. bill: never be comfortable with the idea of a black president. nothing to do with het care, but ms. tucker has been peddling that garbage for years. check five. campaign people have released this ad -- >> stop spendsing our money. -- stop spending our money. ú0ú0 .ú0ú0 ú0ú0ust sayú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú00 ú0ú0juú0stú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0 >> just say no, just say no. bill: let me get this straight -- the left wing fridge mobs
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are organizing against the right wing fringe mobs. sounds like a world wrestling deal. the "wall street journal" is reporting that illegal aliens will be countsed in the 2010 census and they will be considered the illegal aliens, the same as u.s. citizens by federal authorities. that means more congress people from the border states, among other consequences. obviously, this should not happen. and finally, check seven, it's august and it's hot, so let the pool parties again! -- begin! ú0ú0 ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú0ú00 ú0ú0br >> break out the margaritas. >> nothing left. >> they really swim. the guy's underwater. bill: there's not enough chlorine in the world. that reported video is from thailand. but, hey, could be at a local pool near you. that is "reality check."
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